62. My Vision on John 3:12, 13

June 14, 2013


Jhn 3:12   If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things? 


 Jhn 3:13   And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven. 



I asked the Lord for the true meaning of John, Chapter 3, verses 12 and 13, in reference to Jesus speaking about being in heaven while He was speaking to Nicodemus on earth.


The angel of the Lord showed me that in saying that the Son of Man was in heaven while Jesus was speaking to Nichodemus, He meant His Divine Nature Holy Spirit soul of His life which was in heaven where it had been from the time of the Incarnation began at His slaying from the foundation of the earth. I was shown that contrary to man’s believing that the only sacrifice and Atonement for sin on the part of the Son of Man was on the cross of Calvary, that is not true.


The heavenly Sanctuary Atonement began to take place in the heavenly Sanctuary when the Son of Man was slain from the foundation of the earth. While the Atonement was not finally completed until Christ’s death on the cross.


Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


"Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.

In the gift of the Spirit, Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could bestow....

The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....

It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character upon the church." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.


The Holy Spirit has a name. That name is Christ, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost.


The Holy Spirit of the Son was “given” by way of sacrifice of His Holy Spirit Divine Nature soul of His life, and without that sacrifice, the sacrifice of Christ on the cross would have been of no avail, because it took some type of death of the Testator of the Everlasting Covenant, the Divine Son of God, to ratify the covenant, and that “death” was the Son’s death to being DIVINE ONLY for eternity.


Christ ascended to heaven, bearing a sanctified, holy humanity. He took this humanity with Him into the heavenly courts, and through the eternal ages He will bear it, as the One who has redeemed every human being in the city of God.”--The Review and Herald, March 9, 1905. {7ABC 488.1}


In stooping to take upon Himself humanity, Christ revealed a character the opposite of the character of Satan. . . . In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder." God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven.”--Ibid., p. 25. {7ABC 456.4}


Christ Man a Priest Forever


Christ as a man forever -- Hebrews 7:24 But this [man], because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.


The angel of the Lord showed me that all of the above is Bible proof of Ellen White’s statement that the Divine Nature Holy Spirit of the Son of God was divested from the personality of His humanity and was indeed a separate third person of the Godhead, to wit:


"Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit.” E.G. White, (Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084.


Eternal Sacrifice Involving Divine Soul of the Son of God


"The apostle would call our attention from ourselves to the Author of our salvation. He presents before us His two natures, divine and human. . . . He voluntarily assumed human nature. It was His own act, and by His own consent. He clothed His divinity with humanity. He was all the while as God, but He did not appear as God. He veiled the demonstrations of Deity which had commanded the homage, and called forth the admiration of the universe of God. He was God while upon earth, but He divested Himself of the form of God, and in its stead took the form and fashion of a man. He walked the earth as a man. For our sakes He became poor, that we through His poverty might be made rich. He laid aside His glory and His majesty. He was God, but the glories of the form of God He for awhile relinquished. . . . He bore the sins of the world, and endured the penalty which rolled like a mountain upon His divine soul. He yielded up His life a sacrifice, that man should not eternally die. He died, not through being compelled to die, but by His own free will." E.G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7a, p. 446.


Son of God in a New Sense


"Christ brought men and women power to overcome. He came to this world in human form, to live a man amongst men. He assumed the liabilities of human nature, to be proved and tried. In His humanity He was a partaker of the divine nature. In His Incarnation He gained in a NEW SENSE the title of the Son of God. Said the angel to Mary, 'The power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God' (Luke 1:35). While the Son of a human being, He became the son of God in a NEW SENSE. Thus He stood in our world—the Son of God, yet allied by birth to the human race." E.G. White, Selected Messages, Vol. 1, p. 226.