36. My Vision on Walter Rea, Ronald Numbers, Ronald Graybill

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Why I Still Believe in Ellen G. White


March 9, 2012


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Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.


Mat 12:32   And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.  KJV

 


This early a.m. of March 9, 2012, I was given a vision concerning the following subject matter. I am writing out what I was shown by my Angel, Gabriel. What I was shown is expressed in my own words, but the content is according to what I was shown. Some of what I relate was shown in past visions, but is necessarily repeated for articulation and contingency purposes. All truth is contingent, and the Lord showed me long ago that this is the reason Ellen White oft repeated herself.


As some of you are aware, I recently posted a book that Walter Rea wrote but did not publish. http://www.nonegw.org/rea/pirates-of-privilege.htm  My prime reason for posting this book was to apprise Seventh-day Adventists of more facts about the Dr. Donald Davenport scandal which some SDA leaders and laity participated in.


The book also deals with Ellen White’s plagiarism which she admitted to. This is nothing new to informed Adventists. I have also read Dr. Ronald Numbers’ and Ronald Greybill’s materials on Ellen White. Ronald Graybill had been a research assistant for thirteen years and was designated an associate secretary of the Ellen G. White Estate. So why do I still believe in Ellen G. White as being a true prophet of God?

 

As you know, God promised the gift of prophecy to a true church for the purpose of maintaining unity until Christ comes. To deny the gift of Ellen G. White, is to deny God’s promise in His Word as regards not only the gift of prophecy, but a body of people who have been privileged with His truth as a continuum of the Reformation. To deny the gift of prophecy via Ellen G. White is to speak against the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost, which is unpardonable sin. It becomes readily evident that one should enter a lot of study and prayer before disbelieving in the gift of prophecy, the gift of the Holy Spirit, via Ellen G. White.

 

It is interesting that Walter Rea refers to himself as a reformer, and his work of demonstrating that Ellen White plagiarized is truth, but to any degree that he, Graybill and Numbers, or anyone else, say or imply that Ellen White was a false prophet because of her plagiarism, thereby blasphemes the Holy Ghost, a charge which I will prove in this documentation of my vision on this issue. Ellen White admitted to copying and stated that God sanctioned such by showing her what was true and safe to copy because of her lack of ability to express herself in writing.

 

Graybill mentions an E. G. White quote instructing ministers not to copy, but they had more education than she had and God did not instruct them to copy and/or what to copy because they could not express themselves well due to a lack of education. Also, ministers are not prophets in the sense that Ellen White was a prophet.

 

The provision of God that Ellen White could copy is akin to Aaron being a mouthpiece for Moses because of his lack of speaking ability. God did not provide a mouthpiece for those who did not need one! And if Ellen White said that God sanctioned her copying and what to garner, to question such is to question God Almighty.

 

Why I Believe in Ellen White

 

I have read some of the earliest and most primitive of Ellen White’s writings even before her first vision. She had terrible grammar. For example: She would say I seen, where she should have said I saw. She was acutely aware of her lack of ability along such lines due to her lack of education. She said how impressed she was with the beauty of expression others would employ in their writing, but she was not so gifted. So she said that God showed her what to read and what to garner from her reading. As well, she was told actual words by her Angel, which she always enclosed in quotation marks. In her day, plagiarism was not regarded as it is today.

 

Should Ellen White have given credit for anything and everything she copied word for word? Consider this: Every word of truth that has ever emanated from the pen of any person in the world was derived from THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, Jesus Christ. He did not copyright the Bible. He does not copyright truth. Every person who ever wrote a sentence of truth got it from THE SOURCE, Jesus. In this regard, neither Ellen White, nor any prophet, is indebted to man’s copyright laws. The church let Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. 4 (the 1884 Great Controversy copyright lapse, so an Adventist doctor printed and sold the book. The church took him to court and he won. The judge ruled that prophetic material is not copyrightable! Even one of Caeser’s judges realized that salvific, prophetic truth is not copyrightable!

 

Ellen White did say that God showed her what to extract from what she read. What’s more, I believe some of the writers in the Bible did the same thing! Some of their wording is the same in the Old as well as the New Testament. Some Bible critics have correctly noted that fact. But having read extensively in Ellen White’s works, I would never dare sin against the Holy Ghost by saying she was a false prophet and that God didn’t use her as a true prophetess to His church.

 

Considering her role in the time span of history she lived—the beginning of the end time, if Ellen White was not a true prophet, then who else is responsible for keeping error out of the early developmental stage of the true Adventist church? Who else fulfills God’s promise to His church that unity might prevail amongst a true remnant until He comes? The answer is glaringly obvious! There is no one else! So either God’s Word has failed us, or Ellen G. White is a true prophet.

 

It is of profound importance to me that Dr. Walter Martin, the Evangelical critic of Adventism, who read Ellen White quite extensively, could only remark that she was a Godly woman! So some Adventist fools have rushed in where Babylonian apostate angels (messengers like Martin) have feared to tread in labeling Ellen White as a false prophet, for if Ellen White was indeed a deceptive false prophet, she was no Godly woman! But what person of discernment could read her works and call her an ungodly woman? Only a very ungodly person would do that, and Dr. Walter Martin could not bring himself to that conclusion! This remarkable fact flies in the face of Rea, Graybill and Numbers. If God did indeed show Ellen White what to take and what to leave in her readings [and I believe with all my soul He did], I would not want to be in the shoes of Rea, Graybill and Numbers! Rea entitled his book The White Lie, saying flat out that Ellen White was a liar. “Numbers is the son of a Seventh-day Adventist preacher, and was a Seventh-day Adventist in his youth,[1] but now describes himself as agnostic.[2]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Numbers  Ronald Numbers recounts about nearly everything ever said by any critic of Ellen G. White on the worldwide internet. He might as well consider himself an atheist rather than an agnostic considering all the truth he has rejected. At this late hour in history, he is rejecting God’s promise of the gift of prophecy to His church, but worse than that, he is rejecting all the Bible except for a belief that some god exists. This is what higher education can do for you if you are not strongly anchored to the rock! That being said, agnosticism or atheism is the only consistent conclusion one could come to if one chooses to reject the Holy Ghost gift to the church via Ellen White, and the pioneer principles incorporated into the SDA belief system as fundamentals of belief.

 

Why Speaking Against the Holy Spirit is Unpardonable Sin Blasphemy


Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Mat 12:32   And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.  KJV

 

Have you ever thought or prayed about the matter of why one can speak against the Son of man, Jesus Christ, and it will be forgiven him, but if one speaks against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, in this world or the world to come? If not, you should, because such an act that constitutes unpardonable sin is one of the most serious aspects taught in the Word. I asked my Angel Gabriel the meaning of Matthew 12:31, 32. Here is what I was told:

 

Jesus is forever combined with humanity. Jesus is not the person of the Godhead who converts the soul. Does that sound strange? It shouldn’t because the Word says that it is the Law of God that converts the soul.

 

Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple. KJV

 

The Law of God is put in the hearts of those who will exercise faith that works by the indwelling Holy Spirit (Ghost) of Christ, which is His life that He gives to us in exchange for the death which was ours.

 

"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25 1 Cor. 11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6.

 

The life that WAS His, is His Holy Ghost being, His only substance before His Incarnation. Only that life, that Holy Ghost, placing the Law of God in the heart, under the New Covenant of grace, can convert a person and enable him/her to keep the commandments of God. So I am speaking of A DIVINE ONLY ENTITY, the Holy Ghost, whereas Jesus is combined with humanity forever. It is that DIVINE ONLY ENTITY, that can enable a person to be regenerated back into the image of God.

 

"Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.

In the gift of the Spirit [HIS LIFE--THE SOUL OF HIS LIFE], Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could bestow....

The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....

It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character upon the church." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.

 

Another Definition of Grace

 

All of modern day mainstream Christendom, defines grace as pardon only. But grace is the soul of the life of Christ His Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost of Christ’s pre-Incarnation Being, the life that WAS HIS.

 

They must have His grace, the Spirit of Christ, to help their infirmities, or they cannot form a Christian character. Jesus loves to have us come to Him, just as we are—sinful, helpless, dependent.” Faith and Works, p. 38.

 

There must be a power working from within, a new life from above, before man can be changed from sin to holiness. That power is Christ. His grace [the Spirit of Christ] alone can quicken the lifeless faculties of the soul, and attract it to God, to holiness.” (ST, May 28, 1902, par. 3).

 

Our Dispositions Unchanged

 

     “If you would be a saint in heaven you must first be a saint on earth. The traits of character you cherish in life will not be changed by death or by the resurrection. You will come up from the grave with the same disposition you manifested in your home and in society. Jesus does not change the character at His coming. The work of transformation must be done now. Our daily lives are determining our destiny. Defects of character must be repented of and overcome through the grace of Christ, and a symmetrical character must be formed while in this probationary state, that we may be fitted for the mansions above.”--13MR 82 (1891).  {LDE 295.1}

 

The Glory that the Father gave to Christ is given to us: “Jesus is waiting to breathe upon all his disciples, and give them the inspiration of his sanctifying spirit, and transfuse the vital influence from himself to his people . . . Christ is to live in his human agents, and work through their faculties, and act through their capabilities. Their will must be submitted to His will, they must act with His Spirit, that it may be no more they that live, but Christ that liveth in them. Jesus is seeking to impress upon them the thought that in giving His Holy Spirit He is giving to them the glory which the Father has given Him, that He and His people may be one in God.” Signs of the Times, October 3, 1892, par. 4.

 

They must have His grace, the Spirit of Christ, to help their infirmities, or they cannot form a Christian character. Jesus loves to have us come to Him, just as we are—sinful, helpless, dependent.” Faith and Works, p. 38.

 

Act 3:26  Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

 

"The Power of God in the Third Person.--The prince of the power of evil can only be held in check by the power of God in the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit.”-- Special Testimonies, Series A, No. 10, p. 37. (1897).

 

Christ had stooped to take upon Himself man’s nature; He was to bear an infinite weight of woe as He should make His soul an offering for sin; yet angels desire that even in His humiliation the Son of the Highest might appear before men with a dignity and glory befitting His character.” E.G. White, The Great Controversy, pp. 313, 314.

 

The Glory that the Father gave to Christ is given to us: “Jesus is waiting to breathe upon all his disciples, and give them the inspiration of his sanctifying spirit, and transfuse the vital influence from himself to his people . . . Christ is to live in his human agents, and work through their faculties, and act through their capabilities. Their will must be submitted to His will, they must act with His Spirit, that it may be no more they that live, but Christ that liveth in them. Jesus is seeking to impress upon them the thought that in giving His Holy Spirit He is giving to them the glory which the Father has given Him, that He and His people may be one in God.” Signs of the Times, October 3, 1892, par. 4.

 

Christ gives them the breath of His own Spirit, the life of His own Life.” Desire of Ages, p. 827, par. 3.

 

The Holy Spirit is the breath of life in the soul. The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ. It imbues the receiver with the attributes of Christ.” Desire of Ages, p. 805.

 

They have one God and one Saviour; and one Spirit—the Spirit of Christ—is to bring unity into their ranks.” Testimonies, Vol. 9, p. 189.

 

They must have His grace, the Spirit of Christ, to help their infirmities, or they cannot form a Christian character. Jesus loves to have us come to Him, just as we are—sinful, helpless, dependent.” Faith and Works, p. 38.

 

If one blasphemes the Holy Ghost, he/she drives away that person of the Godhead, and there is no other appeal or hope for that person, because it is the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Christ, that woos us, gives power for obedience, and places His law in our hearts, for the law is a transcript of His character.

 

Act 3:26  Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

 

Rom 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name

 

1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. 

 

The Holy Ghost is the Ghost of Christ’s DIVINE ONLY Life Before His Incarnation

 

Ellen White says that the Holy Ghost is a person. She says that person is the soul of the life of Christ. Some are teaching that the Holy Ghost is not a person; that there is no THIRD PERSON, in a misunderstood attempt to distance themselves and those they teach from the evils of the Trinity Doctrine. But they avoid the Trinity evil only to imbibe another just as evil by speaking against the Holy Ghost and teaching that He is not a person. That is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. God says that is unpardonable. But my Angel told me there is one hope for such individuals. If they will lay aside that blasphemous error when it is pointed out to them, as soon as it is pointed out to them, they will be forgiven. But if they continue in their teaching that there is no third person Holy Spirit, they will commit the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost that is not forgiven in this world or the next. It is no sin to misunderstand, but to persist in error when shown the empirical truth, that is rebellion against the Holy Ghost that will not be forgiven in this life, so that one will not enter the next life in the world to come.

 

The Trinity Doctrine says that the Holy Ghost always existed. That is a lie of Satan. The Holy Spirit always existed as the substance of God the Father and His Son. But the Holy Ghost is not mentioned until the first chapter of the New Testament. Here is the verse:

 

Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

 

The Holy Ghost did not exist until Christ divested Himself of His Divine Nature Holy Spirit at His Incarnation to become a fetus in the womb of Mary. This divestment met the prescribed limits of a sacrifice, which was death of the Testator, even before the cross.

 

 "The darkness rolled away from the Saviour and from the Cross. Christ bowed His head and died. In His Incarnation He had reached the prescribed limit as a sacrifice, but not as a redeemer." E.G. White Manuscript Releases Volume Twelve, p. 409.

 

"The Incarnation of Christ was an act of self-sacrifice; His life was one of continual self-denial. The highest glory of the love of God to man was manifested in the sacrifice of His only-begotten Son, who was the express image of His person. This is the great mystery of godliness. It is the privilege and the duty of every professed follower of Christ to have the mind of Christ. Without self-denial and cross bearing we cannot be His disciples." E.G. White, Selected Messages, Book 2, p. 185.

 

God and Ellen White say that Christ is self-existent:

 

Ellen White said Christ and the Father were of one substance: "The Jews had never before heard such words from human lips, and a convicting influence attended them for it seemed that divinity flashed through humanity as Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." The words of Christ were full of deep meaning as he put forth the claim that he and the Father were of one substance, possessing the same attributes."The Signs of the Times, Nov. 27, 1893, p. 54. {7ABC 437.3}.

 

Christ brought up with the Father: "Before Abraham was, I am." Christ is the pre-existent, self-existent Son of God. The message He gave to Moses to give to the children of Israel was, "Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." The prophet Micah writes of Him, "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, tho thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of Thee shall He come forth unto Me that is to be ruler in Israel whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." {ST, August 29, 1900 par. 13}

 

Matthew 1:18 teaches that the Holy Ghost sired the child Jesus in the womb of Mary.

 

Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

 

Through Solomon Christ declared: “The Lord possessed Me in the beginning of His way, before His works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth.... When He gave to the sea His decree, that the waters should not pass His commandment; when He appointed the foundations of the earth; then I was by Him, as one brought up with Him; and I was daily His delight, rejoicing always before Him.” {ST August 29, 1900, par. 14}

 

In speaking of His pre-existence, Christ carries the mind back through dateless ages. He assures us that there never was a time when He was not in close fellowship with the eternal God. He to whose voice the Jews were then listening had been with God as one brought up with Him.” {ST August 29, 1900, par. 15}

 

God’s Word says Christ was self existent in Revelation where Jesus refers to Himself as the Alpha and Omega.

 

Conclusions

 

·       For anyone to attribute the works of the Holy Ghost to Baal or Satan, calling the messengers and prophets of God false, it is a serious act of unpardonable sin. There is then no other option of appeal, to wit:

 

For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,


Hbr 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,


Hbr 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.

 

·       All who are teaching that the Holy Spirit is not a person are blaspheming the Holy Ghost and if they will not change when they are apprised of their error, they commit unpardonable sin.

 

Revelation 1:8

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

 

Revelation 1:11

Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

 

Revelation 21:6

And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

 

Who is speaking in the following verses:

 

Revelation 22:11-13

 

11 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

 

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

 

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

 

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

 

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

 

16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

 

Jesus is speaking in all the verses of Revelation to the churches.

 

·       All who believe and/or teach that Ellen White is a false prophet, are blaspheming the Holy Ghost who worked in and through her.

·       If Ellen White was a false prophet, God’s promise failed in regard to the gift of prophesy to guide a true church. It is the Holy Ghost whom men and women are really indicting when they say Ellen White was a false prophet.

·       Anyone who calls any of God’s messengers/prophets false and of Baal (Satan), are really blaspheming the Holy Ghost. They thereby commit unpardonable sin. This is a most serious abomination with eternal consequences.

·       Some, like Vance Ferrell, believe that there will be no other prophets other than Ellen White, because she didn’t say there would be others! That is a foolish thesis, because God’s Word says there will be a plurality of men and women who shall prophesy, not just ONE PERSON. So Vance is speaking contrary to the Testimonies of God’s Word. May God have mercy on his errant soul. He says folk are misinterpreting Acts 2:17. Ellen White says to take the Word just as it reads, and the following verse is so plain a child could understand, but God’s Word also says that all His watchmen (Vance was a credentialed SDA minister) cannot understand—Isaiah 56:10-12. Vance cannot seem to understand a correct version of the Godhead as well. Vance’s lack of spiritual discernment is because he has never taken a yea or nay stand on response to the apostasy of the church. Even Ellen White quotes the following verse and she does not elaborate to give it any other meaning.

·       Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

 

In the name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,

 

rwb

 

 

 

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