17. My Vision on Regeneration
April 12, 2009
1Pe 2:9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
I want to forthrightly state at the outset that anyone who does not believe in regeneration of the 144,000 saints (bride) of Christ (from all ages) who is kept through the time of trouble that comes upon the entire earth translated without seeing death, renders Jesus and Ellen White as imposter false prophets. Let me explain:
It was Jesus, the alpha and omega, from whom John the Revelator received the seven messages to the seven churches in Revelation chapters 2 and 3.
The Lord has been pleased to give us further light on the beautiful truth of regeneration of the saints. Early this a.m. I was given some very precious and exciting good news for the saints in response to my prayers for answers to the following questions from George Jordasche in Romania:
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Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:57 PM
Subject: [AdventistHotIssues] General and Special Resurection- Help!
Ron my brother help!
I quote this passage from the brilliant inspired The Everlasting Covenant and A Transforming Knowledge of God (Part II) by J. W. Johnson
"And so, the creation of man in the resurrection will be accomplished through the process of natural law in the form of regeneration, and through the union of the divine Spirit, which is the "Marriage of the Lamb."
Christ Jesus becomes married to His saints. And He compares the relation between Jesus and the church as the relation between husband and wife, or the Head of the body and the body – and that is, after the 144,000 have gone through their investigative judgment, their characters have been proved perfect through the merits of the gospel (power of the gospel) which enables them to do it, even as the character of Christ had been proved perfect before His anointing at His baptism. "
My question which arises from this passage is: If the special resurrection is going to be accomplished through the process of natural law in the form of regeneration...etc, what about the general resurrection? I mean the first resurrection of the great multitude?
The second question would be:
May it be possible that the second resurrection to abide by the same divine process of natural law? Then it must take time on this earth for those who are resurrected in the final stage to become the "body of Satan" for the "marriage of the Satan", in order for all of them to sharing the same spirit of the devil, and to unify their knowledge and their memory of the evil pertaining to all passed generation! This is, mutatis mutandis, a logical conclusion to brother Johnson testimony! What do you think about that?
Thank you in advance!
Ron’s Response to George’s Questions
Mr. Johnson claimed to have received his knowledge concerning the 144,000 by vision. Regeneration deals with the 144,000 because they love Christ enough to aspire to receiving His Divine Nature Holy Spirit for becoming His body. In the earthly sanctuary there was the high priest and lesser priests. During the millennium the 144,000 are the lesser priests and Jesus is the High Priest. The 144,000 educate the great multitude during the millennium and bring them to full stature in the fullness of Christ.
I think your explanation of the wicked proving their character before the universe over a period of time is very commensurate with Johnson's logic.
My visionary revelation
What I state on the subject from this point on is what I was shown in revelationary vision early this a.m. of April 12, 2009.
I will make a confession. Since 1986, I have wondered why some of Ellen White’s statements seem to include the entire body of Christ (church) as the bride and others (and there are quite a few) make a great distinction between the 144,000 and the rest of the body of Christ. For instance, only the 144,000 go into the temple on Mt. Zion, Early Writings, 19, and in Christ’s Object Lessons, pp. 405-6, the voice of God and the voice of the bride awaken all ten virgins with the Loud Cry, “behold the bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet Him, because they all slept, Matthew 25:1-6. I don’t know why the answer to this paradox was not revealed to me sooner, but I am grateful to have received it now.
It could be that God wanted me to fully understand the truth of the 144,000 before going further, because the SDA church at large has been totally deceived in thinking that there is no distinction between the 144,000 and the great multitude.
The Holy Spirit showed me that when the children of the bride become educated over the span of the millennium and grow into the full stature of Christ, the entire church is then the Sanctuary (Temple), the body of Christ, so that there is no Temple in the ultimate New Earth, for the entire saved body becomes the bride of Christ, His body.
Regeneration and the Integrity of Jesus Christ Via the Seven Messages to the Seven Churches of Revelation Chapters 2 and 3
There should be no misgivings that from the following texts of Revelation, Chapter 1, it was Jesus who gave John the seven messages to the seven churches:
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
Rev 1:3 Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.
Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace [be] unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him [be] glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send [it] unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks [one] like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and [his] hairs [were] white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes [were] as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance [was] as the sun shineth in his strength.
Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Rev 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Rev 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.
Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Jesus made an Imposter by those Who Reject Regeneration of the Saints of All Ages
I have said for a long time that those who reject the concept of regeneration make a false prophet out of Ellen White, because if the 144,000 are translated without seeing death and only they go into the temple on Mt. Zion, and Philadelphians from circa the times of the disciples are made pillars in that Temple, Revelation 3:10-12, then the saints of all ages, including original Philadelphians from the original church of Philadelphia, would have to be regenerated to be kept through the time of trouble that comes on the entire world as well as being made pillars (priests) in the Temple in heaven.
But Ellen White did not write Revelation 3:10-12 and the message to the original church of Philadelphia, circa the 1st century A.D.! Jesus Christ dictated those messages to John the Revelator. Thus, those who disbelieve the teaching of regeneration, necessitated by Revelation 3:10-12, render Jesus Himself as a false prophet! It was Jesus, not Ellen White, who told that original church of Philadelphians, who were not faulted for anything (blameless), that they would be kept from the hour of temptation (the time of trouble) that will come upon ALL THE WORLD to try them (all them) that dwell upon the earth.
How do those original Philadelphians get here for that time of trouble and to be translated without seeing death UNLESS THEY ARE REGENERATED? In Desire of Ages, 179, the disciples are referred to as the bride of Jesus Christ. This occurs through the process of regeneration by which their character template is reproduced in another body, just as Jesus was provided another body for His humanity to dwell in. He was the firstfruits of the regeneration and the 144,000 are the second, third, etc., etc. Thus, their characters are tested in a real, live investigative judgment and against the perfection of Satan’s state of the art temptations at the end-time.
Without this mechanism, Satan would say that if the Philadelphians and the disciples, as well as the saints of all ages, had lived during the time of his perfection of his devices, they would have yielded. Satan’s counterfeit of regeneration is reincarnation. He has a counterfeit for every important thing that God has done or will do.
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Rev 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name.
The Antitypical Day of Atonement and Sins Going in Beforehand to Judgment
1Ti 5:24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some [men] they follow after.
The sins of the saved must enter the Sanctuary BEFOREHAND, before the Day of Atonement. This is according to the Sanctuary Service. The sins of all who do not put away sin before the Day of Atonement are handled afterward. All who did not put away sin to have their sins go in BEFOREHAND to judgment were cast out of the camp of Israel AFTER THE FACT, after the Day of Atonement.
Thus, all who believe in the Investigative Judgment, and that the antitypical Day of Atonement began in 1844, are forced to believe in regeneration. All who deny regeneration, thus deny the Sanctuary Service, the Day of Atonement and the Investigative judgment, whether they possess the spiritual discernment to see this or not. Thus, they dispute and deny the very words to Philadelphia in Rev. 3:10-12, and make an imposter of Jesus Christ, by intimating that He was errant in those messages to Philadelphia. They might as well discard their Bible. This is serious business!
Regeneration of the Great Multitude as Well
All must participate in the Investigative Judgment which began in 1844, by a live demonstration of their character. The character of all who have lived must be tested in this “testing time” of the Day of Atonement, so those who’s characters may not have been of the same strength as the overcomers who comprise the 144,000 still have been tested in the same way – in bodies prepared by God for them. The character is what is tested – so after that character goes through his test, he can be allowed to “sleep” again until he is raised to see Christ coming to take him along with the others God has saved to heaven.
Here are the words of Mr. Johnson. They cover the great multitude. The fact that no sins enter the Sanctuary on the Day of Atonement other than those that were confessed and put away BEFORE THE DAY OF ATONEMENT, demands the regeneration of all subjects of the Investigative Judgment. I said at one time that Mr. Johnson did not want to commit on the great multitude regarding regeneration, but I misunderstood. My wife has corrected me on that. It was certain issues regarding the great multitude that he did not want to comment on, but not the fact that they are regenerated for the Investigative Judgment because his words below clearly portray that the great multitude is regenerated as well.
Begin quoting brother Johnson:
The Reproduction of Characters Who Have Gone Before
If then, no further sins can be transferred to the sanctuary during the officiating in the Most Holy, what would become of the sins which would be confessed by people who are born since 1844?
There may be some solutions to this of which I am not aware. But there is one possibility which presents itself to my mind, and that is this: That since 1844, the investigative judgment began, and the investigative judgment is a judgment of characters which is worked out in actual human bodies living on this earth. We have mentioned something about this before.
If that is true, then these who have come to maturity since 1844 are in reality but reproductions of characters that have gone before, and their sins have already been taken care of. And at the present time they are going through their investigative judgment; and the sanctuary is being cleansed.
It would be clear then, would it not, that no new sins would be entering the sanctuary? The work is one of judgment, analysis, and cleansing. It is by reason of their choices, brought about through the super-imposition of the righteous character which was developed in their former existence, that their sins are overcome. (That is not precisely the way I wish to express it.)
What I mean is: It is through the merits of this character which has been built up and is now being tested, that they are enabled to make the proper choices in relation to the temptations which befall them during this “testing time” since 1844.
This period is specifically called the “testing time” in the writings of Sister White. And it is the period of the investigative judgment as we have already known. This view would tie together the idea of the testing, and the idea of the investigative judgment. And it would be obvious that the universe could observe which people living since 1844 would be worthy of the first resurrection, and which would not.
The first of the saints down through the eras of the church – that is, those who have attained to perfection, will come last in the investigative judgment. And there will be the 144,000*, who will live on after probation, right on through the second coming of Christ. And they are to be translated!
*[Consider 1st Timothy 5:24: “Some men’s sins are open beforehand; going before to judgment, and some men they follow after.”]
And so, in a sense, the resurrection began in 1844. The resurrection occurs according to the natural processes of God’s laws. And these generally function over a period of time. So we have the restoration of characters in human bodies, and the testing of the investigative judgment.
The complete resurrection of all parts of the individuals, including their bodies, and their consciousness, and their memory of their former life – the complete unit, will not take place until Jesus comes in the clouds of heaven. But when this does occur, in the light of the things that we have said, it should seem clear that the resurrection will come into human bodies which are living and which are grown up in this world.
There will not be a mass destruction of all the human bodies that are existing in the world at that time, and the reappearance of a completely different set of bodies out of no place. Those who shall come forth from the graves, will come forth into the bodies of those who are living or who have recently lived. There are aspects about this resurrection which I do not understand yet.
But I am convinced that the doctrines which we have been teaching down through the years, insofar as we understand them to date, are correct. And any future understanding of these things, any expansion of understanding, must build upon the “old foundation.”
I am assuming that you understand that there are two groups who are saved. There are those who have gained the victory over all sin, the 144,000, who are translated. Then there is also a great multitude which no man can number. End quoting brother Johnson.
The All-Inclusive Royal Priesthood After the Millennium in the New Heaven and the New Earth
After the millennium, all are part of a royal priesthood, a holy nation, New Jerusalem. The great multitude (children of the bride) are taught for 1,000 years by the 144,000, and they grow up into the stature of Christ, just as the 144,000 FIRSTFRUITS offering did. They then graduate to become part of the actual body of Christ and further down I will prove this from Scripture that was shown to me in vision this a.m.
Jesus is the high priest and ALL, even the great multitude, are part of His Royal Priesthood at the third coming of Christ with His bride to the earth renewed.
But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Psa 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
Hbr 5:6 As he saith also in another [place], Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hbr 5:10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
Hbr 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, [even] Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hbr 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need [was there] that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Hbr 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hbr 7:21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)
The Answer to the Riddle of the Distinction Between the Bride, the 144,000, and the Guests during the Millennium, and All the Saved Becoming the Bride of Christ, His Church, AFTER THE MILLENNIUM
This is thrilling good news that I am overjoyed to convey to the saints. First, if you believe you are saved by the merits of Christ, you can rest assured in salvation. No one, including the 144,000, keep the commandments to be saved. They must keep them out of a motive of love for Christ, and His Atoning Sacrifice, because they are already saved by the Merit of that Sacrifice. This is how and why Christ knows that we love Him when we keep His commandments, because the true saints know that they are saved by His Merits—not their commandment-keeping. Thus, their commandment-keeping is a purely motivated act of love for Christ.
What is the difference between the above stated “belief” and the Doctrine of the Nicolaitans? The Nicolaitans believe that the law has nothing to do with salvation. That is a lie. Those who love God will keep His commandments. Commandment-keeping is proof of their love. So commandment-keeping is involved with salvation. But it is not commandment-keeping that saves us. It is the Merit of Christ that saves. Our best commandment-keeping is as filthy rags.
Secondly, after the “children,” or “guests” at the wedding are taught by the 144,000 during the millennium, they aspire to the full stature of Christ and become the bride of Christ as well. This is good news! This answers to the disparity between some of Ellen White’s statements; some of which suggest strong distinctions between the 144,000 bride and the guests.
Here is bible proof that all finally become the bride of Jesus Christ and part of His Temple, for in the New Heaven and New Earth, He is the Temple thereof:
1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men [obviously ALL MEN THAT HAVE BEEN SAVED], and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
13On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlong s. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
18And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
19And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
20The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
21And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
There is no temple in the New Earth, because Jesus is the Temple. He is the Head and His bride is the body.
22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Thank you dear Jesus, for this revelation of precious light that was to be ever unfolding for your people. Amen.
“In the gift of Jesus, God gave all heaven. From a human point of view, such a sacrifice was a wanton waste. To human reasoning the whole plan of salvation is a waste of mercies and resources. Self-denial and wholehearted sacrifice meet us everywhere. Well may the heavenly host look with amazement upon the human family who refuse to be uplifted and enriched with the boundless love expressed in Christ. Well may they exclaim, Why this great waste?
But the atonement for a lost world was to be full, abundant, and complete. Christ's offering was exceedingly abundant to reach every soul that God had created. It could not be restricted so as not to exceed the number who would accept the great Gift. All men are not saved; yet the plan of redemption is not a waste because it does not accomplish all that its liberality has provided for. There must be enough and to spare.” Desire of Ages, pp. 565-66.
 “Clearly, then, the bride represents the Holy City, and the virgins that go out to meet the bridegroom are a symbol of the church. In the Revelation the people of God are said to be the guests at the marriage supper. Revelation 19:9. If guests, they cannot be represented also as the bride.” The Great Controversy, p. 427.
“Lingering near the bride's house are ten young women robed in white. Each carries a lighted lamp and a small flagon for oil. All are anxiously watching for the appearance of the bridegroom. But there is a delay. Hour after hour passes; the watchers become weary and fall asleep. At midnight the cry is heard, "Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him." The sleepers, suddenly awaking, spring to their feet. They see the procession moving on, bright with torches and glad with music. They hear the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride. The ten maidens seize their lamps and begin to trim them, in haste to go forth. But five have neglected to fill their flasks with oil. They did not anticipate so long a delay, and they have not prepared for the emergency. In distress they appeal to their wiser companions saying, "Give us of your oil; for our lamps are going out." (Margin.) But the waiting five, with their freshly trimmed lamps, have emptied their flagons. They have no oil to spare, and they answer, "Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves." Christ’s Object Lessons, pp. 405-6.
Matthew 25:1-5 says ALL THOSE VIRGINS SLEPT. All ten slept! And the voice of God AND THE BRIDE awakens the ten virgins. This is a clear distinction between the ten virgins and the bride. In Early Writings, p. 19, only the 144,000 enter the Temple on Mt. Zion. They are pillars or leaders. They are teachers who instruct the babes in Christ who are saved as 11th hour converts and have not had time to grow up into the stature of Christ as did the 144,000. There are a number of other distinctions between the bride and the guests, the great numberless multitude that I describe on my Website.
 "The people of God, symbolized by a holy woman and her children, were represented as greatly in the minority. In the last days only a remnant still existed. Of these John speaks as they 'which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." E. G. White, Signs of the Times, Nov. 1, 1899, and Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, vol. 7, p. 972.